How Do You Deal With The Hatred Towards Men Online? (2025)

Audie said:

Passive, submissive, me? Ha!
Never!

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Sicilian men are crazy for passive women.
I was born in the right place.

Estro Felino said:

Sicilian men are crazy for passive women.
I was born in the right place.

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I was too. American men by and large are not crazy for passive women, though they could be.

Audie said:

Passive, submissive, me? Ha!
Never!

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It's not for me either. My childhood was.filled with abuse and bullying, but I started finding confidence and self worth a few years ago amd now that I've learned my needs are also important I'm just not interested in being submissive, especially now that I'm living for me rather than walking on eggshells and making sure others are happy.

Heyo said:

Men also still get better for the same work, are more likely to get promoted, can't get pregnant, are on average taller and stronger, don't get strange looks when they are rational, etc. Even in our "egalitarian" society, it is still an overall advantage to be a man.

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I wonder how many men are upset about not being able to get pregnant. I'm sure there's a few.

Quetzal said:

Men seem to have an advantage professionally but are dealing with heavy burdens socially: finding partners, emotional health, etc.

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Its true, men have their own burdens.

Estro Felino said:

I am 100 times more feminine and classy than my sisters, my friends...and men here adore femininity.

Men don't necessarily focus on looks. They want a passive, submissive woman. Like me.

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That's not true.

Men want a woman who can burp the alphabet!

Shadow Wolf said:

It's not for me either. My childhood was.filled with abuse and bullying, but I started finding confidence and self worth a few years ago amd now that I've learned my needs are also important I'm just not interested in being submissive, especially now that I'm living for me rather than walking on eggshells and making sure others are happy.

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I am not interested in submitting to men.

stvdv said:

Thanks for sharing your mindset

Would be really twisted if evil doers get away with their crimes they committed

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Insinuating death through war to pay a debt to karma is pretty evil in its own right. But to each their own.

Kathryn said:

I am not interested in submitting to men.

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Me neither. I've found too much confidence, self esteem and self worth. Why should anyone with these things desire anything less than a partner who respects them as an equal?
However, I've never understood why, I'm a sub in the bedroom (as is BDSM submissive).

stvdv said:

Many, many, many

But karmic payback goes fast if war is used

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That's nit justice or karma. People today have no real understanding of what was done in the past, they didn't do those things, and this just is not like what they did last week or month or decade. Some misdeeds can haunt us for a liftime. But if I am reincarnated from a previously life I am utterly and entirely unable to process such a thing or even remember them to be properly corrected for past mistakes. You're just punishing me for something someone else did.

Shadow Wolf said:

Me neither. I've found too much confidence, self esteem and self worth. Why should anyone with these things desire anything less than a partner who respects them as an equal?
However, I've never understood why, I'm a sub in the bedroom (as is BDSM submissive).

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I am not submissive to anyone, anywhere really.

X_Y said:

There is so much open hatred toward men online.

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Like what?

Tomef said:

Like what?

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We haven't heard back, but I think this would be the closest toss in Horseshoes.

9-10ths_Penguin said:

"Men" across the board or "men" you identify with specifically?

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Shadow Wolf said:

It's not for me either. My childhood was.filled with abuse and bullying, but I started finding confidence and self worth a few years ago amd now that I've learned my needs are also important I'm just not interested in being submissive, especially now that I'm living for me rather than walking on eggshells and making sure others are happy.

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I grew up in an abusive home with no voice or any hope whatsoever, but I have been in an unconditionally loving relationship with my soulmate and closest friend (my husband) for 33 years. He has always treated me as his equal in our relationship and in our marriage of 32 years. I can't imagine ever being anything other than an equal to him. The notion that I must be submissive to him and am inferior to him because I'm a woman is absurd to me. I think it's self-defeating for any woman to believe that she must be submissive to men and that she is inferior to them simply because she is a woman.

Alien826 said:

I have observed hatred of men by women. Examples include lesbians that decide that once they find a way to produce children without male "input" men can be discarded and fish can swim off without needing bicycles. Others are those that have been very badly used by men. I understand why these people feel that way and don't judge them.

I wouldn't call it pervasive though. Just some outliers.

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JustGeorge said:

Yeah, I'd agree.

As a woman, I generally won't engage in such talk. Had it happen a few days ago by a friend who was irritated with her husband. "You know what? I think this is just how men are..." I told her I disagreed, and knew several men who'd be perplexed by the problem behavior she was describing. "I think your husband's just being a turd."

But I know some in the group you're describing, and in cases when the hurt is really deep, I just let it go... Had a friend's mother who was severely abused... She was often trash talking men... You could sense the hurt was deep, and it was better to humor her.

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I will be honest here...I'm nonbinary have been seen as both man and woman. The hate towards men I've noticed is mostly feminine rage in the sense that women are tired of being mistreated and abused. Take this song for example some might call it hate but I deeply relate to it as someone who is often seem as a woman and grew up with a lot of abuse from men:

Most will acknowledge it's not all men but it's hard to trust any when almost every woman they meet has been hurt by sexual abuse whether directly or indirectly. I've been sexualized since childhood all because I am assigned female at birth. So I understand this fear. I do think some overcorrect sometimes I have myself done that due to trauma and a sense of self preservation

Sgt. Pepper said:

I grew up in an abusive home with no voice or any hope whatsoever, but I have been in an unconditionally loving relationship with my soulmate and closest friend (my husband) for 33 years. He has always treated me as his equal in our relationship and in our marriage of 32 years. I can't imagine ever being anything other than an equal to him. The notion that I must be submissive to him and am inferior to him because I'm a woman is absurd to me. I think it's self-defeating for any woman to believe that she must be submissive to men and that she is inferior to them simply because she is a woman.

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I need to catch up on this conversation. I thought we were talking bout bdsm cuz of this quote:

Shadow Wolf said:

Me neither. I've found too much confidence, self esteem and self worth. Why should anyone with these things desire anything less than a partner who respects them as an equal?
However, I've never understood why, I'm a sub in the bedroom (as is BDSM submissive).

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But yes I agree with you. Ironically in bdsm situations despite the power exchange people are more equal in those situations than in sexist households where the woman is viewed as less than solely cuz they a woman. The submissive in bdsm is the one with most of the control in most cases as they can revoke consent and are viewed as equal in the sense their rights are respected. At least if the relationship is healthy.

Quetzal said:

Men seem to have an advantage professionally but are dealing with heavy burdens socially: finding partners, emotional health, etc.

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And *****ing about it helps? Oppression of women was (and still is) a systemic problem. The "heavy social burden" of men is mostly a personal problem.

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Kathryn said:

No, most men I know are after sex as soon as possible.

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Find better company.

Heyo said:

And *****ing about it helps? Oppression of women was (and still is) a systemic problem. The "heavy social burden" of men is mostly a personal problem.

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Yes. Discussing problems and how to help each other solve them is a human thing to do, regardless of gender. I am not suggesting the oppression of women is not valid, it absolutely is. But that is not the topic of this discussion. Ironically, dismissal of emotional burdens of men is one of the more common reactions and is what you just did. Pointing out social difficulties for one group of people does not suggest the absence of them for another. This isn't a zero sum game.

Estro Felino said:

Sicilian men are crazy for passive women.
I was born in the right place.

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I wouldn't be in high demand in Sicily, I suppose.

Quetzal said:

Yes. Discussing problems and how to help each other solve them is a human thing to do, regardless of gender.

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Yes, but I don't see the discussion of a problem here.

Quetzal said:

I am not suggesting the oppression of women is not valid, it absolutely is. But that is not the topic of this discussion. Ironically, dismissal of emotional burdens of men is one of the more common reactions and is what you just did. Pointing out social difficulties for one group of people does not suggest the absence of them for another. This isn't a zero sum game.

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Maybe we need some concrete examples. Everybody has their own image of "hatred towards men". What I imagine is some incels whining and moaning that they can't get laid, and accusing women for it. Where do you see hatred towards men?